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Post by Youn0469 on Jun 10, 2011 7:40:05 GMT -5
A friend of mine just posted on his Facebook page that "I'm gay I officially like penis like this if your gay."
So I had a couple thoughts initially, A) he is trying to be funny or B) he is serious and this is his way of coming out.
I'm trying to figure out whether he is joking or not but I also have to respect boundaries as I know him through the boy scouts and I am one of his leaders. This is not what got me to thinking...what did is why is it that when someone says they are gay, why do we have to ask if they are serious are not?
All to often youths and adults alike use the term "That's so Gay" to describe something as unacceptable or unwanted. The term has negative connotations among a huge percentage of our society.
Should we not be able to rely on one's words as accurate and not some joke when they say that they are gay? Why is there a sense of humor attached to the term gay? What is it about being gay that is so undesirable, humorous, or negative??
Moreover it annoys me that people use a term that denotes a social class of people in a negative manner. I don't care if you are black, gay, fat, buddhist, female or what ever, you should be able to live your lives freely to its fullest potential without others suppressing you or infringing on your basic human rights.
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Post by ball6542 on Jun 10, 2011 12:18:51 GMT -5
Well, I've had friends say something similar and it always made me wonder. The key I found is that if you know their personality and if you think they would do something like this as a joke. Also just keep an eye on his profile the next week or so and see how he interacts with females. I'm sure that would quickly give it away on if he was coming to terms with his possible homosexuality or not.
As for the word 'Gay' being overused in negative fashions, I think it's funny how the meaning of words change over time. Originally (mid-20th cent.) the term 'gay' meant someone with hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles. It wasn't until the 1960's that the term 'gay' started to make a change in the meaning to describe homosexuals.
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Post by burner on Jun 11, 2011 2:16:20 GMT -5
A friend of mine just posted on his Facebook page that "I'm gay I officially like penis like this if your gay."So I had a couple thoughts initially, A) he is trying to be funny or B) he is serious and this is his way of coming out. I had one thought, intially. Huh? Then after reading the quote twice more I had a second thought: This friend of yours needs a refresher course in English composition, knowing where to place a period to denote a completed sentence [I'm gay. I officially like penis.] and knowing the difference between "your" and "you're".
..........and while we're on the subject......As for the word 'Gay' being overused in negative fashions. I think it's funny how the meaning of words change over time. Originally (mid-20th cent.) the term 'gay' meant someone with hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles. It wasn't until the 1960's that the term 'gay' started to make a change in the meaning to describe homosexuals. While I certainly agree that the meaning (or usage) of words change over time, I have to disagree with the timing you note. As Wikipedia will attest (and it's never wrong, is it? ) the term "gay" came into use in reference to homosexuals in the late 19th century. Certainly by the time of my own "blossoming" in the mid-1950s it was in common usage.
There have been some changes of note over the last 50 years or so. When I first came out we were all gay, whether we were male or female. There were only "gay men" and "gay women". For reasons I'll never understand, along with "women's lib" came a desire by the younger female generation to separate itself and self-identify as "lesbian" instead. Those of my generation still call themselves "gay women".
I've learned to live with the generational split. What I've NOT learned to deal with, nor accept, is the use of the word "gay" as a noun. Speaking of a gay man or a gay woman the word is used, properly, as an adjective. The use of it as a noun was only heard, in a tone of utter disgust, from the homophobic bigots of the day who would say: "Eeeewwwww! Did you KNOW? He's 'a gay'!" It has become more commonplace nowadays and is used, as a noun, even by those who from all appearances are anything but bigoted. Still it grates on my nerves. It really hit home, not too long ago, when Donald Trump made his classic remark about "the blacks" liking him. To me "the gays" is just as offensive as "the blacks" is to others. Some may believe I'm overreacting. Perhaps. But there it is. That's how I feel about it.
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Post by Youn0469 on Jun 11, 2011 14:47:30 GMT -5
Burner, I totally agree with you!
As it turns out, the Facebook of this individual's was "hacked" by a supposed friend.
I know that people use words to try to belittle others. I guess what I am getting stuck up on is why do people need to feel superior than others??
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Post by burner on Jun 12, 2011 2:04:54 GMT -5
Burner, I totally agree with you! As it turns out, the Facebook of this individual's was "hacked" by a supposed friend. I know that people use words to try to belittle others. I guess what I am getting stuck up on is why do people need to feel superior than others?? With "friends" like that, who needs enemies? As to your question, "Why do people need to feel superior than others?" just remember: Those who need to feel superior never really are. The only way they can feel good about themselves is to belittle others. It's just plain sad.
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Post by Youn0469 on Jun 12, 2011 2:11:54 GMT -5
I know, I guess I will never understand this superiority complex. I have no need to feel superior to others. I may feel better than others at times, but never superior. After all, the US was created so that no "man's" rights supersede or infringe on that of any other person. Maybe I have learned something that seems to have escaped many along the way....
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