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Post by bluepride on Jul 11, 2011 15:42:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I was going to mention that it was originally done by NIN.
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Post by Youn0469 on Jul 18, 2011 8:23:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 15:42:57 GMT -5
There are more gay men who are members of Manhunt.com than in ALL of the LGBT civil rights organizations combined, and that stinks !!!
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Post by bluepride on Sept 19, 2011 16:34:26 GMT -5
Pretty sad, isn't it? And pretty telling too. I wonder how many manhunt members are LEOs......
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Post by TheBear on Sept 19, 2011 20:34:12 GMT -5
Pretty sad, isn't it? And pretty telling too. I wonder how many manhunt members are LEOs...... I recall about three Christmases back when I was visiting friends in Sarasota, FL. I had invited Carroll and Stephen to dinner. It was a delightful evening (even though, sadly, Stephen had to decline, being not well.) During the evening, Carroll posed a similar question... why is it that these sex/dating nee porn websites garner soooo many more participants than, in my opinion, more worthwhile sites... (such as BluePride.org !?) ... even, alas, LEOs. I am not a member of Bear411 or SilverDaddies (though I certainly "qualify") because, to me, they are so shallow. NO redeeming qualities what-so-ever. All BS and/or vicious liars. I used to belong to BearsInTheKitchen (bearkibble, recipes, etc.) but even that became a spiteful, snarky, queenie website, in my opinion. So, YEAH, Why IS it that our BP site does not attract a stampede for LGBT LEOs to participate? We DO have FUN! We have sections for PMA, Positive Mental Attitude, sections to offer support for those in pain, sections to HONOR professional excellence and hard work, sections for laughs and guffaws. We even have fresh cookies in the BluePride breakroom (grin!) So, WHAT is it? Carroll's observation is correct. As far as MEN, (and LEO women, for that matter,) in the LGBT community, we have the PRIMO members right here on BluePride ! Bear ____________________
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Post by Youn0469 on Sept 20, 2011 5:06:09 GMT -5
I'll tell you why bluepride does not have the same appeal as the majority of other GLBT oriented websites...SEX...Sex sells.
And no offense to my elders in this forum, but most people who use the interwebz are my age. Most people I've met, gay or straight, who are older, 45+, don't like computers, cannot tolerate them, or find them a waste of time. Of course there are exceptions to the rules as you all exemplify.
Whereas those who are my age are more preoccupied with the material needs and the instant gratification. Sad to say. This is also all across the spectrum, gay and straight.
I also think that the fight for equality is on a different plane than it was in the 60's and 70's. We have given the power to a few to fight for us and pretty much resigned any and all power from the individual. As an individual I often perceive it as very hard to make a difference or that I don't matter in the grand scheme.
One organization that slightly bothers me is the HRC. Notable in its causes it is also very select. A while ago I organized a GLBT resource fair at my college, a first of its kind. I contacted the local HRC only to have my emails shuffled around and eventually ignored. You pretty much have to have deep pockets or know influential people to have them even notice you. It's not about how they may help and how I may help, its about what can I do for them.
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Post by bluepride on Sept 20, 2011 10:52:10 GMT -5
Very interesting and true points made by Bear and Josh. As far as our site, yes it has slowed down compared to how busy it used to be but we're still here and thriving. It was made clear in the beginning that it wasn't about hookups and sex and people still joined in droves. And we've had a lot of good members over the years. Some come and some go when they realize we're not an avenue to hook up from. That says something about them, doesn't it? But we have strong veteran members who contribute here. And just because someone isn't posting every day, that doesn't make them any less valuable to Blue Pride. People have lives and careers and it isn't mandated that folks spend every waking hour here! And I do know that some members and some people on the periphery of being members are also members of some of those sites mentioned above and others. And to an extent, that is fine except when they compromise their employment by posting risque photos of themselves on some of those sites. But...that's their problem, isn't it? Where we used to have approximately 25 members signed on in any 24 hour period, there's usually a lower number that logs on these days. Again, fine and dandy. We stress quality not quantity here. Always have, always will. But my concern is that (as in a majority of groups, organizations, sites, etc, etc...) it seems to be always the same people doing the heavy lifting. I guess I just accept it now although I am disappointed. It's not what I started the board for. It makes me wonder (for the thousandth time) if its worth it. As I've said in the past (and I don't care if people don't like it) gay people like to be entertained. And if they have to get off their butts and "do the work", they run for the hills. In a lot of cases. I've seen it for more years than I want to admit. And when things don't go the way they want, they're the first to bitch and moan. As far as I can tell, there are just as many older people than younger ones on the internet. And that instant gratification thing is true for young and older. I get a lot of crap for calling things as I see them without window dressing and political correctness and not being in lockstep with the community. Again, I don't care because I'm right. I've given up on groups like HRC and others too numerous to mention right now because I've seen them become nothing more than parrots and money solicitors. They tell people what they should be concerned with instead of listening to concerns of members and potential members. And by the way, give us more money. A lot of people in the gay community feel this way too from what I've been reading over the last 5-6 years or so. They're angry that they get no responses other than give us money from groups they may belong to or were thinking about belonging to. And the non-responses are maddening as well. At one point I used to plaster radio cars with the HRC sticker! But no more. There were a lot of cars driving around with those things on them!! It does bother me that newer, non-knowing gay people don't see the downturn that some groups have taken over the years. But what is the answer? I'm not sure other than to say that people in our community need to start thinking for themselves and not just regurgitate what others say. And keeping to the same old opinions and attitudes they had in years past. (I'm speaking now of older people) Things change, situations change and times change and we have to adapt to the changes. What worked in 1973 might not work in 2011....or 2012....or whenever.... And even though everyone is entitled to their personal lives as far as things like hooking up, etc go.....sometimes you gotta take the time and take stock of your community and what you yourself bring to the table. If all you do is spend most of your time on sites like manhunt dot com, well that is pretty sad and says something really not good about you. Whoever "you" is. Anyway...I've rambled on for long enough. Gee, there was a lot of caffeine in my coffee today wasn't there??!!!
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Post by Youn0469 on Sept 21, 2011 2:58:50 GMT -5
So you remember how Michael Jackson was taking propofol to sleep at night. Well the doctor is in and he thinks you need a rather large dosage of Fukitol. I've been known to take this myself on many an occasion. I have come to realize that I cannot change the world in a day, or in a million years. I can change my world, my perception and my little own world, but not every thing on a grand scheme. I have given up trying to always be the voice of reason. It is futile at best with many nowadays. So I choose Fukitol to help relieve me of my pulsating veins and throbbing headaches. I've learned that the only one I can control in life is ME, so I'm going to focus on ME, not HIM, not THEM, not HER, ME. Fukitol is also a great medicine for stress relief...
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Post by burner on Sept 24, 2011 1:49:53 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with instant gratification. Of course at my age instant gratification means anytime this week!
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Post by bluepride on Sept 24, 2011 14:15:58 GMT -5
Your idea of instant gratification!!!
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Post by Youn0469 on Sept 25, 2011 14:58:52 GMT -5
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Post by burner on Oct 29, 2011 1:47:26 GMT -5
My pet peeve is that no one has posted a "pet peeve" in over a month! It's one of the most interesting and thought provoking threads on the board. Get with it, guys and gals. You're ticking me off!@#$*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 10:02:39 GMT -5
My pet peeve is Ricky Martin. Every time I turn around, some gay organization is giving him another award. When I think of all the wonderful things he's done, down through the years, to benefit the LGBT community, Im left speechless !!!!
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Post by TheBear on Oct 29, 2011 11:59:05 GMT -5
My pet peeve is Ricky Martin. Every time I turn around, some gay organization is giving him another award. When I think of all the wonderful things he's done, down through the years, to benefit the LGBT community, Im left speechless !!!! Has he done something for us (other than being forced to come out?) OH... that was the point! And, yeah, why should R.M. be receiving all this praise? I suppose it is a fact of life that certain gay celebrities garner all the attention. Certainly, there are those who have made enormous efforts in LGBT and social issues (thinking Elton John and his huge fund-raising efforts for AIDS, for example.) Yet, it is true that many of the banner-carriers, the real heroes for LGBT issues are hardly known. Ellen, Rosie, Neil Patric Harris... perhaps some of their greatest contributions are the mainstreaming - the public normalization - of gays, lesbians, same gender marriages, raising children, all as a common and usual part of society. While I personally find Rosie to be rather off-putting, her public personal life seems to reflect some of the same challenging relationship and other issues as everyone else in general society (i.e. normalization). Thus, while I agree with Carroll, I wonder if Ricky Martin may have done more to mainstream and normalize LGBTQIs, albeit not through any intentional effort on his part, than is at first apparent? Or, has he been a champion for our rights in some way that I don't know? Bottom line: Just as I posited in Las Vegas... we are all part of the great tapestry of life and society. Plain, endearing, colorful, popular or unknown, the LGBT thread is a strong part - both warp and weft - of the fabric of society. And, it is through BluePride, Legal International, Florida LEGAL, and all the champions, monuments and pivotal events (Stonewall!,) known and unknown, that this has become possible. The struggle continues. Bear ___________
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Post by TheBear on Oct 29, 2011 12:06:34 GMT -5
My pet peeve is that no one has posted a "pet peeve" in over a month! It's one of the most interesting and thought provoking threads on the board. Get with it, guys and gals. You're ticking me off!@#$* (Bear licks our dear Burner's ear, pats him on the popo and hands him a cookie...) Now, just take a deep breath, sit down and enjoy your warm milk and cookie... I agree. We'll get with the good stuff. Your secret admirer, Ursus ______________________
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